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Ep 10: Pursuing Intentional Adventures with Dr. Sam Song

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In Part 2 of a conversation with Dr. Sam Song, she continues to share her experiences on humanitarian missions with MedGlobal and how that reignited her passion for practicing medicine and reconnected with her heart for service.  She also discusses how saying "YES" to the first opportunity has led to a greater trend of personal growth.  Now she intentionally pursues at least one new experience each year.  While some were declared "failures", others have enriched her life immensely.  She discusses her next venture in bringing together art and stories from islands that are at risk of extinction from rising sea levels.  Dr. Sam Song serves as a beautiful example of a Dare to Dream Physician who embraces growth and intentionally creates a life with passion and fulfillment.

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Welcome back to part two of an amazing conversation with Dr. Samsung. Who has practiced obstetrics and gynecology in washington state for over 20. If you have not heard episode nine yet, please make sure. You add that to your list after you finish listening to today's episode. She talks about living her wildest dreams in real life. And drop so many pearls on cultivating gratitude, joy and courage. And it really strikes me how Dr. Song serves as a living example of a dare to dream physician. We're picking up from part one of our conversation, or Sam tells us about the moment. She saw a flyer to volunteer for a humanitarian mission to a refugee camp in Jordan at the height of the syrian refugee crisis in 2015.

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So when I saw the flyer, I was like, there's thousands of gynecologists in the United States. I'm sure somebody would hit the call. Right. There's somebody else to do this. Somebody who's better than me who has more time than me. Who has a more compassionate heart? I'm sure somebody else. But I would thought, you know, this is something that had always thought about 20 years ago. Right. Um, when I was a senior in high school, thinking about how I wanted, what my life wanted to look like, That had sort of clicked in my head and I thought, sure, there's somebody else out there that's better than me. That would heat the call. And so when I saw it a month later, I thought, well, why not me? I had the skills. I now have the time and I have the gumption to do it. Why not? And that really, allowed me to meet so many. That moment of saying yes, opened a whole world. I did not know existed. It was actually, it was an incredible experience, because it was incredibly moving to see. No vulnerable, people out there just in crisis, right? You don't leave your home unless you are trying to save your life, unless you try to make it better for your family, for your kids, a future for your kids. Really. People don't leave the safety of their home if it's safe. So to meet these, men, women, children, pregnant women, living in insecurity and vulnerability, it was incredibly moving and to meet so many people, so many other, physicians, dentists, physical therapists that all had that same, mindset. It was incredible and what they were doing, what others were doing. I had no idea what people were doing up there and uh, to meet them. I just felt like my heart opened up to them and uh, it was an incredible experience. So, you know, it's all about connections, right? Really, you know, about this. And from there, I, went to the Greek Macedonian border when, that was at its height and serve there. And then all of a sudden then you're meeting people like, oh, did I meet you Jordan?

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

okay.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

And, these connections in passing become more solidified. And, you know, you have a. A conversation and you see how you are perspective aligned with each other, your mission align with each other. And more things open up to you. Right. So, yeah.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

So there's so many things there I want to ask about. But I think one thing that I'm hearing is you looked at a flyer, you started thinking about it and then you a month later decided. This, why not me? Right? Why not me? And then you pursued that. And in, in saying yes, now it's opened a whole new world for you where you met other people who shared a similar vision than what you had 20 years ago, and now it's opening up more opportunities for you. That, that is so amazing. I think it's so inspiring to hear that you just have to say yes to one thing and start, and, and from that so many new things can come

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Yeah. Actually from that experience, there were so many other webs that happened. That experience was so positive. It actually, I did a couple of other things for my life. Number one, I, and I'm more open to saying yes to people, but also another thing that I incorporate into my own life was doing something new every year. Just say some, a brand new something that I hadn't ever done before and trying to continue to live that incorporate that brand new thing. And some of it has stuck and other things have not stuck. And as we get older too, I think some of us get stuck in our own ways and we get old and grumpy and you know,

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

well, you certainly do not sound old or grumpy.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

oh, you want it the way things should be all the time. But I think it allows you to be more open and inviting to new ideas and experiences.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

You painted this picture for us of what it was like when you were on this humanitarian mission, I want to hear more about it. Can you give us more examples?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Absolutely. So I actually went with this year in American medical society. Because it was during the height of the Syrian crisis. My, team leader. He is in the fraud just out of Vancouver, Washington, wonderful climate. And I had never been around the Muslim culture. I mean, I just, I came as a gynecologist. Right. I mean, just so unaware.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

okay.

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But the team, they were incredibly organized. And we had internists, pediatricians were very much sought after I was a gynecologist. We had a dentist physical therapists. They, there was a quite a lot of men and women who are recovering from bullets or bonds and injuries from those that needed physical therapy and rehabilitation. So they're actually a vital component of our mission. And from there, I met some of the other members of this year in American medical society, eventually one of them started a group called mental global, and that's now the board that I serve on. And then they have the most wonderful vision. It's healthcare without disparity. It is that healthcare is, is a human, right. And we go to where there are vulnerable areas where healthcare is minimal and we really try to provide not just a crisis response, but sustainable healthcare there. So we've served in, we have a clinic in Rohingya refugee camp in Bangladesh. And we just opened a midwifery clinic there. We have a clinic in the border of Colombia and Venezuela. So hiring the locals there too. And we've had a mission or people in Yemen and the Gaza, and now in Sudan, such as these vulnerable places. Yeah, so it's just, it's been wonderful and the people, their vision, and I feel like I'm writing on their coat tells, just providing my service, but they are just visionaries and just such hard workers and amazing, from this experience, I initially, I went as a Dewar, right? I have a set of skills. I'm a gynecologist. I'm an obstetrician. That's what I do. I provide a service in that manner, but having done that now my, my mindset, it was a little bit different. You don't want to be a doer. I want to be a teacher. Right by the knowledge that you have so that they, the people who are there, uh, continued to, serve others with a new set of knowledge. So learning like advanced life-saving skills and obstetrics, where, it's a program through the AFP, imparting that to the places that we go to teaching those skills so that they're more efficient with postpartum hemorrhage, which happens to be the number one killer for mothers in labor. So learning just those basic skills of uterine acne, identify what is causing maternal hemorrhage is such a big skillset that you think everybody who is delivering babies know, but to hone in those skills and to really run that. who the algorithms so that you can affect change. simple things like that. Right. So that's my new path.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

that's wonderful. One thing I wanted to ask about is, can you share with us, one interaction or one story that's really touch you or change the way you look at things?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

There's so many stories, but I'll give you a very simple story. When I was in the Greek Macedonian border, I was doing not just gynecological Care, but sometimes just urgent care. And I saw young, young a boy, he was probably like five, maybe four. He has stepped on a rusty nail. I mean now for you and I, that live in the United States, it's not a big deal. You step on a rusty nail, you make sure your T dab shot is up to date so that you don't get tetanus. And then you don't get an infection. You watch it over there. Right. The boy did not have a T DAP vaccination. And I remember, you have an X amount of time to go get it. So we said, okay, let's just treat that and come back tomorrow. And we're going to give you the vaccination TDF and doctors, without borders, I was there with Sam's, uh, which is this year in American medical society, but doctors without borders, they were doing, I think the morning clinic and we were doing the afternoon clinic. So to make sure we, I think we had tried to make sure find if they had some T dab vaccinations, So they didn't. Then we ran around to every pharmacy in Fessel key. I think it's called the town that we were in. I think we went to like five different pharmacies looking for the tetanus vaccine we found, we've after the fifth one, we finally found, they said, yes, we have the Texas vaccine. I gave them my credit card. I said, I want to take every one of them. I will take all that you have. Okay. They gave me four. I thought they were going to give me a hundred. And I thought about like, calling my husband, like, okay, there's going to be some charges on Amex. There's going to be some charges on annex, but you know, a hundred, no big deal. We're gonna, we're gonna deal with that later on. But I was shocked that there were four tetanus vaccines in that city. And despite me thinking I'll buy a hundred and we'll just fascinate everybody in the camp so that we're not running around. I thought that was so profound because here we are in the United States arguing about every vaccine and in when you're in a vulnerable situation, you take these things for granted. These are life-saving measures. Right. I was in Brazil in my senior year, my fourth year of med school. I went to a tennis ward, where there were, neonates and 50 year olds and, just a ward of patients with tenderness. And it has seared into my brain, what tetanus looked like, which she had never seen the United States. It was such a mess, a profound experience because here was incorporating my med school experience from 1996 to now I was, it was 2016, 2015. So when is that? Like 20 years later, like envisioning that ward of Texas patients and driving around with our Interpreter trying to find tetanus vaccine that was just heartbreaking for me to see that. That's one story. He got the vaccine and then being in this camp seeing at, when we were in AZA today in Amman Jordan, seeing all those people, pregnant women, in the camps getting prenatal care. And I remember seeing another patient there who was in her fifth pregnancy she had four C-sections and she asked me, where do I go when I go into labor? No. Perfect.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Yeah. Heart-wrenching right. So, because even if they are in labor, not every hospital will take these patients on these refugees. And so already you're at danger with that C-section number five. Um, but she didn't even know where to go. And it was just, it was, that one made me cry a little bit after, it just gives you a little pause, like, wow. I hope she's okay.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah. Wow. As you talk about your experiences, I'm thinking, well, some of our listeners like myself, haven't really been exposed to humanitarian missions. I would love for you to maybe share with them. If they're interested in this, what are their next steps? How did they get involved?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Actually that's such a great question and I, I would encourage anyone. Any physician to go on. I manage Caribbean trip with a group that they trust. And I think there are many out there and I don't know all that's out there, but med global.org. Yes. Go med global doc. Um, even though I came on as a board member because their vision, their leadership and the mission that they have is just amazing. And everybody I met through mental global, they're just phenomenal funnels. Uh, both as physicians or as a field person. I mean, just amazing. So yeah, that's how I would start with med global.org, I think it lights a fire also, right? When you volunteer a time in the purest form, you're volunteering for service. For humanitarian reasons. You're not getting paid often. You have to pay. I mean, I pay for my own airfare, hotel, food, whatever I have accommodations, the armed guards our organization pays for you. Don't always have to, you can go to places where you don't need armed guards, but it does spark a fire in your, in your heart, in your mind and your brain about the work the gift that we have, the skills that we have, right? The knowledge that we have, that many people in the world do not have access to. Healthcare is not always a right, and it's not always available to everybody in the world. When you're out there treating without expecting any payment, you're doing your best with what you've can't and, and patients are so grateful, it is amazing experience. And I think it does renew some of that fire, maybe it's that we've lost as we trudge through our med school loans. Our fatigue from call, all that administrative work and certification that's required on an annual basis. Right? I mean, being a physician nowadays is death by a thousand cuts

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Hm.

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It is a service I do recommend for everybody to go on and the time commitment could vary as short as a week. And you can even do it in the United States, too, right. With like the Rams program, or you can go internationally. But even if you have a day, like our institution has a day of service where they provide even in the United States, free healthcare for a day sports arena where you can just do simple blood pressure checks or just advice like, yes, you do need to see a physician for this mass in your belly. I think that is quite rewarding. And to just give your service for free for X amount.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah. Wow. I love it. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. I wasn't even expecting us to talk about this when we planned the podcast, but I'm so glad you brought it up.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Yeah. And really, I do think it reignites the reason why you went into medicine, which is to be a service, Most people go into medicine are compassionate. They're brilliant. They have brilliant minds. And they want to be of service to other people, but it's the minutia that gets us all in a quagmire where like in quicksand, we can't seem to get out of the charting and numerous, administrative tasks that we have all the boxes that we have to check in daily basis. So that your malpractice is paid so that your staff has paid. So that insurance covers the cost of the visit, so many things are out of our hands, but I think humanitarian work really just brings it all back to focus.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yes. So secret number two from Dr. Samsung on how to be happy and joyful as a physician and as a human being. I love it.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

What was my number one? Yeah, I think the number one is to know where you want to be, because that's the only place. That's the only way you can get somewhere. You have to have a vision. And whether you set a vision board, a lot of people talk about a vision board, but a one one-year plan, a five-year plan, a ten-year plan. I think you have to know where do you want to go so that your feet can take you there so you can live your life intentionally, right?

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yes. Living in your life intentionally. Yes. Oh, I love it. So good.

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

So Sam you mentioned that you started a trend saying yes to going on your first humanitarian mission and you started a trend of doing something new every year. I love to hear more about it.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

Thank you for asking me, so, I do try to do one new thing a year and sometimes it's intentional and other times it just kind of hits me in the face. I'm like, okay, this is a good thing. I should be doing that. I should be doing this continually. Right. And sometimes it's frivolous. Like when you're I took acting classes, I'm never doing that ever again. it Was just so uncomfortable for like six weeks. And I just couldn't wait to be over and done with it. Oh, my goodness. I can't believe I just told that to people, but I actually took the acting class for a reason because I had read a wonderful book, Pachinko, it is the experience of the Korean Yeah. diaspora in Japan and how they migrated from Korea during the war and to Japanese occupation and just how they were treated like second class citizens. It was just so moving and heartfelt. And I thought for sure it was going to be made into a movie. And I thought, oh my gosh, I'm going to be in that movie. And I must take acting classes.

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

What an amazing thought. I love that. And so you tried it, you did six weeks of.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

Yeah, and it was terrible and I was terrible at it and it was so uncomfortable. I'm never doing that again. So like I said, sometimes it's an intentional thing and other times it just kind of hits me on a wind. Now what, another new thing that I took up. So I suffered some back pain a couple of years ago. And it was my first time I ever truly experienced chronic pain and to experience that, and it finally made it empathetic to chronic pain. It's not until I think you feel it on a daily basis and how it erodes your brain in terms of all the energy that you have to use to make it go away so that you can go on. Go to your job, do the things that you need to do for your family. And just take care of yourself. So with that experience, it made me more empathetic, but I was unable to exercise because of the pain and, I was in my mid forties and I thought to myself, wow, you can project out what it's gonna look 10 years from now. If you don't exercise, Because your general muscles get weaker. And which means that I'll probably end up with more severe hypertension or diabetes or weaker bones being, Asian and being Asian and a female. Those are risk factors alone for having osteoporosis. And so I thought to myself what can I do? That's not weight bearing. So I went to the pool. I thought I just need to get some cardiovascular exercise. Can we swim suit? And I thought to myself, well, if I don't drop, this is going to be a good day. And so I swam across the pool, took me a long time, but I didn't drown. And then I swam back to the other side of the pool. Again, I didn't drown. So I did five.

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

Back and forth from the pool. That took me about an hour

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

every week. I increased my goal to two more, two or three labs. So from five, I went to seven the next week and the following week I went to 10 and then I went to 12 and two 15 and slowly I increased it. And I think when I got to 20, I was like this is taking forever. I'm just going to go to 25. I'm an impatient person. And then from then on, after about maybe half a year or maybe a little bit over a half a year, I was now swimming a mile. A mile every twice, two, three times a week. And after about two years of doing that, I thought to myself, oh my God, I'm a swimmer. I was YouTube how to improve my strokes and just doing, and I got stronger and it gives you incredible power, right? Mental power to be strong. If we are in the ocean, I feel strong. I feel at home, because it's now a learned ability. To be comfortable in the water

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

Hmm.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

and yeah. So that is a new thing that I started many years, about four, five years ago that I continued to do.

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

Wow. And you had no idea that the chronic back pain problem would over the years, help you become a strong swimmer.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

That's exactly right. I'm amazed. I mean, I don't want to say it's a blessing, but it really was a pivot in my journey into my health because now I prioritize my time. Because of, and I tell myself I've got one body and, and no one can make it. What I do too, is how it serves me. So if I do well by it, meaning, you know, feed my body, what it needs, take care of it by exercising, being stronger. It will hopefully serve me better in the future. Know, when I had my chronic back pain, I went to see the physical therapists, um, the physical therapists exercise some before, but the physical therapist, he's like, oh yeah, very, you have a very weak core. And I looked at him like, what are you talking about, buddy? I thought, are you kidding me? I'll show you. And, um, but it, it was such a blend observation, which I took negatively at that time. Really. I have other choice words in my brain that you'd not say out loud. But it was such good blunt advice and observation that it really changed the trajectory of the way I took care of myself. Right. So it made me aware that my muscles matter. It's not just my heart and the cardiovascular exercise. I need to have strong heart, but I also, I need strong muscles. So this injury really reframe the way I take care of my body.

audio_only_1_16778242_Weili_Gray

Wonderful. Thank you. Another Pearl. And you have just such an amazing growth mindset that started really from the first yes, you said, and then now you decided to make that opportunity to keep trying new things. And from those new things, some of them were maybe flops, but other things have caused you to grow so much.

audio_only_1_16779266_Sam_Song

Yeah, this is true. I am an immensely grateful for the life I'm living in. I still make tons of mistakes but at the same time, I am still growing and I'm still finding lots of joy in my life and hopefully new experiences and new people and new ideas are still ahead of me.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

One more thing I want to ask you about is, you mentioned that you were so grateful for the experience of growing up in Guam. Can you tell me more whether you have any connections to Guam now?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Yes. I still have family and friends I'm gone, but I think living in the islands has also made me

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think

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about the global impact of climate change in relation to how life is an Oceana, how life is in is in the islands with rising sea levels. Some areas like the island of Kiribati, 50% of their land mass has disappeared since 2000, because of rising sea levels. and so.

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people's homes or are their homes there?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Yes, there is an indigenous population that lived there and they're experiencing, when we get typhoons or hurricanes, they're seeing their things wash out their farming land is getting destroyed because of the saltwater that's coming in. But, Some islands would disappear right in 20, 30, 20, 50. These hundred year storms that supposed to only come a hundred years. We're coming now every 10 years or every five years having these record temperatures are occurring consistently. So having said that I am not an artist and I'm not, I mean I don't think I'm an activist, but I do have a focus in highlighting art from OCM. The cultures in Ponapay Marshall Islands care about, all of those islands out there that are to be preserved and hopefully with highlighting, there are from that area, more people will be, are you aware of those vulnerable islands around the world? So that's going to be my next name.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Wow. So tell me a little bit more about there. Are we talking about photography painting or what sort of art are we looking at?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

There's so many different types of art, not just petroglyphs or, writings or drawings in coconut bark, but there is a diverse culture and history in the islands. I mean like Tonga cure, Vida Tuvalu, the Marshall Islands. There's so many different and distinct cultures out there. There's an artist named Paula, Oh, I'm going to butcher her name, but it's a shot Shasta. I believe she's from Tonga now lives in New Zealand, but she has these coconuts cultures that Toga Lola's that over time due to the heat sort of melt and that's supposed to depict the climate, the rising temperatures around the world. Artists in Kiribati that, you know, does indigenous paintings, highlighting indigenous works around there. So I mean everything and anything, you can imagine their stories told in poetry, their stories told in song,

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

wow. How did you know about them? It was just from growing up there.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

no, actually surprisingly not from growing up. I mean, when you're in high school or in elementary school, you're just trying to have fun with her friends. You're not thinking about saving the planet. Right. I think over time, as climate change affects all of us in so many different ways. I heard about the island they're buying land elsewhere in a different island because they're islands at sea level. And they know that eventually with rising sea levels, they're not going to have any areas. So these are the first of our climate refugees. They're going to have to move from their indigenous land to somewhere else because of their land is no longer be existing, but there's also climate refugee cells where for example, in the desert. The Gobi desert is expanding right into, even into China and to Mongolia, the Sahara desert is expanding into Northern Africa, so that there's less farmlands. Those are climate refugees as they move away from what used to be farmable land into Arab places with expanding deserts, they have to move somewhere else. I mean, That's part of the refugee crisis from Ethiopia, from Sudan, Eritrea, they're moving into Europe. So many people are moving. I mean, we don't know about these. We consider them like economic refugees, but they could be considered climate refugees as well. Well, because there's no food, right? You can't live in that area. It's too hot. So there's no jobs. So they're moving from their own lab.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Hmm. Fascinating.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

You recognize that my bubbly exterior kind of mask, all the things that are weighing me deeply in my brain.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yeah. I think that is your secret weapon, right? Because you are so joyful and optimistic, but there are so many things that you care deeply about that you're passionate about, that you want to make an impact. And it's such a powerful combination.

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

I think that the key to life is being hopeful, that things will get better and that we can make an impact in the world. It's that resilience it's trying to do the best we can to make it better, create a future that you want to see. I think this is a quote that I stole from somebody else. Optimism is a choice. And I think we have to just be hopeful that we can create a future that works well, that aligns with our values and what we want to shape it in the best way. That's my secret.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you for that amazing discussion. I really cherish our time together. So now that our listeners know about the amazing Dr. Samsung, how can people find you?

audio_only_16779266_Sam_Song

Well, I have an office. If you live with the queue out there and you have some kind of ecological need, I can be your doctor. Yeah. I'm also on Instagram as fad then MD. And then I am starting an Instagram on my art gallery that I'm thinking about, it's called vanishing land art gallery.

audio_only_16778242_Weili_Gray

Wonderful. I'll put that in the show notes and I'm also going to be following you as well, especially the vanishing land art. I can't wait.

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